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I just read on Eschaton that slowly but surely the numbers calling to impeach the Shrub are growing. Great news. But this is what I don’t understand.
They spent something like 78 million dollars of tax payers money and 8 years hounding the Clintons and then impeached him for the ‘high crime and misdemeanour’ of a little private hanky-panky with Monica. OK – they really got him for perjury but that wasn’t what it was about and the whole world knows that.
On the other hand, the Shrub throws lies about like confetti; steals a presidential election; turns a personal vendetta and excuse to spread a little wealth around to his buddies into another Vietnam ensuring that the world is a more dangerous place for the rest of us; stamps all over the US constitution and citizens rights; spits at the UN and the Geneva Convention; makes a mockery of true Christianity; turns America into one of the most hated nations on earth; takes from the poor to give to the rich… and still only a minority think he should stand accountable!
Does he really have to screw an intern to get your atttention?
Amen!
You are my new best friend.
I heard a soundbyte on NPR the other day from Clinton where he said the Repubs spent 78 billion taxpayer dollars to prove he was flawed when all they had to do was ask if he he was flawed and he would have said “yes”. I thought it was a little ironic because he didn’t actually answer “yes” to the specific question, but the point is the same.
It was a question no one should have been asking, and yet no one’s asking the important questions of Bush.
You mean it was ‘Billion’? Not ‘Million’. That’s your moral majority for you! Thanks for giving me a link on The Naked Truth. I do believe you are the first….
OK This really got me curious this week and I did some googling and was unable to come up with a definitive final cost of the Kenneth Starr independent investigation. The numbers I saw ranged from $27 Million to $75 Million, so it’s at the least probably in the Millions.
I find it fascinating that I was unable to come up with any official-type report of the accounting of the investigation.
Hmmm…Here’s a cnn article from 1999 about it. At that time, it was nearing $80 million for 4 1/2 years of investigation by multiple investigators BUT the 8 year investigation of the Reagan Administration only cost $47.4 million.
It’s still a whole lot of money that could have been used more efficiently.
I have to own up here. I got my figure of 78 million from Hilary Clinton (Living History). She was obviously biased although at the same time I was impressed at how restrained she actually was in her criticism of the whole mess the Republican Right anti-Clinton brigade foisted upon her and Bill.
Of course, the people who should REALLY, REALLY be ANGRY are the American people. I never quite understood why they just let it go and then went straight out and voted for the morons who perpetrated the crime.
American here… ducks… now before you start throwing things at the evil hated american :-\ I"d like to say something.
Not everyone is happy with the job bush has done… the issue is the ones that aren"t happy don"t hae as strong a voice and don"t get as loud a voice to speak against him.
big money (companies and lobbyists) get the largest voices sad but true… these people are reaping the benefits of keeping bush and buddies around. There are more millionaires in the US than ever again sadly I can"t even count myself as being middle income.
These people and the supposed hard core right wing militant Christians are what keep the monkey in office. there are just enough more of them than there are of us if you look at the numbers it"s always been fairly exactly 50% each side and you"d think that might have some weight but it"s the truly big money huge companies that sway the powers that be the most… capitalism at it"s finest?
So here we sit and wait and this too shall pass at what cost, my pride? my ability to travel to other countries and feel welcome?
His time in office is nearly over but honestly will the next be any better? sadly it looks like it will be Billary er um Hillary and to be honest i don"t trust her any more than her sneaky husband. My vote would go to Obama but I question the spirit of all modern politicians…
It"s always been a position that corrupts and draws people seeking that level of power… Can you really ever have a leader that really wants to do the right and best for a nation? My view on it is so skewed any more. I don"t beleive anyone that seeks the position of leader of a nation simply has the nations best interests at heart any more. I"m not sure they ever did but there seemed to be a time some did care.
I"m rambling and I"m sorry but it"s painful to me to sit and listen how people from other countries view the US… You can"t blame every individual for what a government or leader does. Do we blame all Germans past, present and future for what Hitler did?
Sincerely
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@efoiv – Well I can only but agree with what you are saying regarding the power behind Bush. What really amazes me is how 7 short years can can do so much damage at home, abroad, with foreign relations, the economy etc., and be so devisive within. I would have said a few years ago that one man couldn"t achieve all that in such a short time but there you go – I would have been wrong. Sasdly, it will probably take longer to repair the damage but there will be a huge sigh of relief around the world when Bush throws in the towel.
@andy – lol one man didn"t, he"s got his entire huge machine behind him
the scariest thing to me… like anything that"s done in government it at times takes 10 – 20 years before you really see the ramifications of the things that were done. We only know what we see now what we already know. How much is done behind closed doors… what policies changed in drastic ways that we really aren"t aware of yet……………
Yes we"ll soon be bushless but what he"s done will be lingering far longer.
What I"m asking though is, don"t hate the american people themselves for what the government of a country has done. if we all kept up like that we"d all have a reason to hate everyone. At one point in history or another we"ve all had our dark days, bad leader, bold times where our governments felt it was their birthright to take over foreign lands. Honestly every major nation has had it"s moments. If we all counted all those times forever into the future we"d all hate each other. I just want to be judged for MY actions fir the person I AM.
Oh and btw I got your gallery plugin working although in IE 7 it appears to layout a little funky… still looking into that though could be a css thing nice plugin though
How come all my single quotes turn into double quote marks lol
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I have no ideas on the quotes I"m afraid but I think it must be the codes coming from your end as it seems unique to you.
If you read all my items that deal in some way with America you"ll fnd that I am a great fan of the country and the people. Indeed we were toying with the idea of coming to live there until Bush/2 happened.
Now I sort of find a lot of people seem to be living their life in a trance or on hold. Too many seem to buy the "Fox News" line and live their life convinced they are going to be bombed on their next trip to Walmart. Nobody has noticed that nothing has happened for 6 years. And it quite possibly will happen but there is no point spending years cowering under a table.
I"d still like to live there actually and we visit regularly. But I need for that air of "fear" that has been spread to be lidted. You"re going to need a good Bush replacement for that to happen…
OK – now my single quotes are not working either! I"ll look into it!
Let’s have another try…
Let’s try once not logged in
:0 don’t you just love odd coding issues lol I thought it was just my quotes too but then I scanned up the page to make sure it wasn’t just me
as for the topic … I know not everyone blames the people of the country it’s just seeing so much of it directed at the people makes me feel so helpless and I would love to travel myself but these days i would feel very outcast or at least it’s the impression i get from topics read online.
i live in new jersey literally 15 minutes away from were the wtc used to be. it’s one thing to have watched that on the news but to feel the ground shake and watch the towers fall in person and watch that cloud of smoke rise into the air miles high and miles long for days and days… it’s a lasting impression! I’m 38 yrs old the towers had been there my whole life… no matter what road you are in in this area you could see them. the gapping whole where they used to be is a constant reminder.
every day i drive my wife to the train that goes into nyc and every day we hug at the train and say i love you because really we know for a fact that those trains are a target and we live with that
we don’t cower we don’t hide but for us it’s a known fear.
now I agree that wallmart is not going to be bombed most people don’t have any reason to worry at all. but where we live we live with knowing that one day, some day this will happen again and next time I could loose someone I love very much. but we still live and I find more of the people that live closest to what happened are the ones that continue to live! I think you’d find less people here are as worried as you’d think I don’t see very many sitting in fear waiting – could the perception of our citizens fear of the next attack also be fox type media hype? that the rest of the world is buying?
I don’t watch fox or any tv news in fact – i get my news online from 3 sources cnn, npr, bbc
TV news is just infotainment and I just dont have any interest in it. web based news at least lets me find out what all the sides to a story are.
any way enough of this — there are better things we can talk about
nice to meet you btw…
where did you plan to move if you did move to the states…
You see I have met people over there who live in constant fear and believe everything Homeland Security, the White House, Cheney and their buddies at Fox tell them. I have talked to these people! I grew up in the London area in the 1960’s and 70’s and I have been in more bomb scares and evacuations than I care to remember. There was a period there in the early 70’s when the IRA were detonating a bomb in London weekly (funded, I might add, almost exclsuively by the US organsation ‘Noraid’). See I know what it’s like. OK – there was never anything as monstrous as the WTC attack but there were whole buildings and there were many deaths and these were regular. You just learnt to live with them and go about your life. And as with the IRA, the only way to deal with these people is not to live in fear and to let themselves learn that their violence is useless. One day, everyone has to talk. No terrorist organisation (as far as I am aware) has ever achieved it’s ends without eventually coming to the table. If Bush had that understanding of history you wouldn’t be in the mess you are today.
I haven’t been in New York since the WTC fell. I am coming over in October actually for my first visit to a city I used to visit regularly. (I used to work for a company based in Roseland NJ so was a regualar visitor through the 1990’s). Bu where would I like to live? I like the climate in San Franscisco…
Someone give the Shrub a blowjob, so we can impeach him.